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Additional Note on the Irish Story Article
Additional Note 

The following extract is from text provided by Rory Cain, who had contacted ScotWars feeling that the closing comments in the http://www.scotwars.com/html/maccolla_ends_the_story.htm article to be misleading and actually incorrect. Unfortunately ScotWars has lost touch with the original author and would love to put Rory Cain’s points to him. Therefore rather than change the original submission we have printed the following information, subsequently supplied by Rory following his initial contact, thanks to Rory for this.

Original Enquiry from Rory
Name=Rory Cain
Type=HistoryQuery
Comments=Turlough O'Cahan was friend & ally of Sorley Boy MacDonnell, not an enemy. When Sorley Boy was threatened by the Lord Deputy Sir John Perrot, Turlough brought his forces & his other ally Brian Carragh O'Neill of Loughinsholin to Sorley Boy's defence. Various references state this.
Your website seems to be in error. What are your sources?


ScotWars Response

The text you refer to is a final note at the end of a 5 page article on MacColla which was submitted circa. 1998 by Austin Rock, studying the site and the battle of Knocknanoss. Sadly we have lost touch with Austin over the years and cannot put your point to him to reply or indeed change his submission.

If you do not mind, a couple of questions that I am curious of...

"Also ALL Irish clans have a march, the March of the O'Cahans is very obscure but it is a very stirring tune recorded to commemorate Turlough O'Cahan the 16th Century Grand Father of Manus and his victory over the MacDonalds[ironic is it not]. All Irish marches though played on the harp where composed for the war pipe."

1. Are the relationships you describe in your email pertaining to the 16th century (as the reference in the above text) or at the time of MacColla in the 17th century.

2. Is there confusion caused between Turlough O'Carolan in the 17th cent and Turlough O'Cahan the 16th Century Grand Father of Manus, or is that a typo?

3. Is the victory he talks of a well known battle? What was it?

Thanks for reading the articles in the first place, if you wish to contribute to site feel free.


Further Information From Rory

Thanks for your reply. Firstly to answer your questions:

1. The relationships in my email are ca.1584-86, two generations before the events of 1641.

2. Turlough was the given name of both the O'Cahan chieftain (although not Chief) from eastern O'Cahan territory on the River Bann, allied to the MacDonnells, and of a harper, O'Carolan, from the western regions of O'Cahan's territories, then County Coleraine.

3. I don't have the name of the battle, but the campaign was that of 1584-85 when the Lord Deputy moved against Sorley Boy & took Dunluce Castle 1584, which Sorley Boy regained 1585.

4. As for correcting Austin Rock's note, Turlough O'Cahan held Dunseverick Castle late 16th C & early 17th C. William Camden's Britannia was first published 1588 and continually revised by him to 1607, so he was a contemporary of Turlough O'Cahan. That source is referenced in the Ordnance Survey Memoirs of Ireland for County Antrim, series V, volume 16, p. 38. Of Dunseverick Castle, Camden says that "it was given to Sorley Boy [MacDonnell of Antrim] about the year 1570, after which it became the residence of O'Cahan, an Irish chief from the bank of the River Bann, from whom the County of Coleraine was called O'Cahan's country. He was friend and ally of Sorley Boy who, together with Bryan Carragh [O'Neill, Lord of Loughinsholin & Toome], united their forces with his to oppose the Deputy Sir John Perrot."

From other sources, I believe Sorley Boy was awaiting reinforcements from the Isles, which faced an inevitable delay. Turlough O'Cahan, from his base on the River Bann, was able to move more quickly, reinforce Sorley Boy, and make further campaigning by the Lord Deputy untenable. No dramatic battle, which would add a romantic gloss, just the cavalry arriving in time. But obviously the MacDonnells were grateful.

Also working aagainst an O'Cahan- MacDonnell conflict, the O'Cahans were kin to the MacDonnells. Angus Og MacDonnell had married Una O'Cahan, early 14th C; Iain Cathanach MacDonnell, 15th C., was so-called because he had been fostered by the O'Cahans; Sorley Boy's sister Elizabeth married Richard O'Cahan of Coleraine, closely related to Turlough; Gillaspic MacDonnell was fostered by O'Cahan of Coleraine, closely related to Turlough, and married his foster-father's daughter; and Gillaspic's son, Colla, married Maebh O'Cahan, daughter of Turlough and sister of Gillbubh, making Alasdair MacColla MacDonnell a cousin to Colonel Manus Rua O'Cahan.

That's how I see the historical record. The O'Cahans were one of the most consistent opponents of the English and that is who they marched against under Turlough O'Cahan, as under their other chiefs. So I would be glad if the present incorrect story, which I understand you cannot amend, were at least balanced with a more historical account.

Regards

Rory Cain

 

 

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